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p06
03-03-2008, 05:59 AM
I recently bought an air gun from a hong kong site recommended on a nz forum.

I chose this 1 based on price / weight / power / size. I was going to get a full metal ak but they were out of stock.

Just wondering what you think of the product and price.

AEG\China Made AEGs
Name China Made FA-MAS SV Electric Airsoft Rifle
Description China Made FAMAS SV Electric Airsoft Rifle (JP960M)
Magazine: 60 Rounds
Length: 757mm
Battery: Large Type Battery (8.4V Large Type Included)
Muzzle Velocity: 380FPS with 0.2g BBs
Material: Pistol Grip & Lower Frame are Metal
Package Includes: Gun, Magazine, Manual, Battery, Charger)
Weight 3500g
Price US$ 102.00

http://www.uncompany.com/images/chinamade-famas-sv_big.jpg

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List of Order - 4 item(s)
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Product name - Excel (Biodegradable) 0.2g BBs
Product Qty - 3
Product Amount - 25.5

Product name - China Made Acog 4x32 Scope W/ Iron Sight
Product Qty - 1
Product Amount - 82

Product name - China Made FA-MAS SV Electric Airsoft Rifle
Product Qty - 1
Product Amount - 102

Product name - disassemble fee
Product Qty - 1
Product Amount - 30

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Total Price: US$ 239.50
Paypal- Less 3% : US$ 232.32
Shipping Cost: US$ 105.51
Balance: US$ 337.83

ObsoleteAcey
03-03-2008, 06:33 AM
you need to be bringing this gun in through your club armourer. If you're not in a club you should look at joining one in your area before getting this gun. Remember, AEGs are illegal in new zealand

As for the ACOG scope, it's a waste of time for the FAMAS unless you buy the scope mount as the FAMAS has no mounts.

p06
03-03-2008, 06:56 AM
Yer might join the Auckland Air Soft group. I thouht the scope came with a mount :( I see now the scope mount is seperate 24$ . I thought the 380 fps was pretty sweet. So many guns only fire at around 300 even a couple sniper rifles.

ADLER
03-03-2008, 07:10 AM
I think you will find you add the PayPal 3% not remove it, a lot of places make you pay it, as they get charged it by PayPal.

UN have a semi'ing service, this will need to be semied pprior to import or custom will turn it into waste material. This varies between $20-50USD.

p06
03-03-2008, 07:11 AM
I think you will find you add the PayPal 3% not remove it, a lot of places make you pay it, as they get charged it by PayPal.

UN have a semi'ing service, this will need to be semied pprior to import or custom will turn it into waste material. This varies between $20-50USD.What? Ordered and payed for Currency Conversion: $432.09 NZD = $337.83 USD Transaction ID: 54W60326L3508162Y

mr_westie
03-03-2008, 08:13 AM
If they have not shipped, get them to Semit it NOW.....

BLACKHAWK
03-03-2008, 08:55 AM
BiBi Brand new Famas :(

Killae
03-03-2008, 09:10 AM
They may not be able to semi this anyway, if it has a v.1 type mechbox.

But they did charge

Product name - disassemble fee
Product Qty - 1
Product Amount - 30

So who knows, cost the same as the semi fee.

wege
03-03-2008, 09:56 AM
ok
you mentioned that you were recommended it from a NZ forum.
Can you please point out the link?

ObsoleteAcey
03-03-2008, 11:07 AM
V1's can easily be semi'd. It''s about a 2 minute job on the FAMAS

Dorian
03-03-2008, 11:41 AM
ok
you mentioned that you were recommended it from a NZ forum.
Can you please point out the link?

Thats what I wanted to know too...

really, anyone buying one of these should be in a club, like any high powered or electric gun

musick
03-03-2008, 12:27 PM
I agree, its good that he has posted here though.

I really hope that gun is semi or you are going to lose it to customs.

My advice is to get in touch with an ASA or APA club head about joining them. They have forums on this site that you can contact them through.

Chibt
03-03-2008, 01:28 PM
Welcome to the great sport of airsoft, i hope to see you on the field soon.

I hope it has been semi'd or you are going to lose your money. If you would like to know about airsoft in auckland flick me a PM to find out about Airsoft Auckland Inc :)

p06
03-03-2008, 01:50 PM
This is where the un site is recommend:

http://www.asnz.org/forums/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=4&t=7

What does it mean to have it semi'd? The guy mentioned disassemble the gun and send the gearbox in second shipment...

So was it a good price?

cyanide
03-03-2008, 02:13 PM
This is where the un site is recommend:

http://www.asnz.org/forums/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=4&t=7

What does it mean to have it semi'd? The guy mentioned disassemble the gun and send the gearbox in second shipment...

So was it a good price?


Shame about that, because that is illegal. If the gearbox is removed and not semi'd you got a body, but your mechbox is toast. Anyone that promotes trying to sneak in auto guns or gearboxes is playing with fire, and unfortunatly you might be the one to get burnt in this case. You got a name for "the guy" who mention'd you do that?

Either someone is being naughty, or perhaps you have misunderstood what they ment.

To get it semi'd means to have the gun properly modified by a tech so it will only fire in semi auto mode. You have to do this to auto bb guns BEFORE they are sent to NZ because auto bb guns are illegal in NZ and customs WILL stop it at the airport and destory it. You will get a letter from customs to let you know it's been stopped when it gets here if that is the case.

p06
03-03-2008, 02:21 PM
Shame about that, because that is illegal. If the gearbox is removed and not semi'd you got a body, but your mechbox is toast. Anyone that promotes trying to sneak in auto guns or gearboxes is playing with fire, and unfortunatly you might be the one to get burnt in this case. You got a name for "the guy" who mention'd you do that?UN Shop Owner.

Regards
Sales
UN Company

cyanide
03-03-2008, 02:29 PM
odd, did he say anything about the store making it semi only for you?

Mouse
03-03-2008, 02:29 PM
Normally it pays to ask for advice before you order something not after mate

ObsoleteAcey
03-03-2008, 02:36 PM
If it does happen to come in, take it to your club armourer IMMEDIATELY to have it properly converted, or if UNCompany still have the item in (as in they have not sent it yet), ask them to Semi it for you and NOT take it appart

cyanide
03-03-2008, 03:31 PM
ask them to Semi it for you and NOT take it appart
I think what Acey means is that they semi it first before they send it to you (which will require they take it apart), but send it to you as a complete gun (put it back togeather, not send it in parts) because customs WILL test it, and they can test the mech boxes if sent on there own aswell. If you ask them to semi it but not take it apart they will think you are a bit daft. :)

wege
03-03-2008, 03:37 PM
This is where the un site is recommend:

http://www.asnz.org/forums/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=4&t=7


So was it a good price?
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Yep. Indeed. That is where it has been recommended.
But by the same token, for you to have read that, then you would... nay SHOULD have read the VERY FIRST POST on that page:
http://www.airsoftauckland.co.nz/forums/index.php?showtopic=366

Which details quite clearly :
Fully automatic airguns
If you own fully automatic airguns you must by law have a firearms licence with a Restricted Weapons endorsement. Although the guns are air powered, their firing mechanism means they are restricted weapons. As well as the correct endorsement you will need to have secure storage facilities for your fully automatic airgun. Safe storage of airguns An airgun can cause serious injury if used incorrectly. When you are not using your airgun, it should be locked away in a safe place inaccessible to children.

(Comment, it is my understanding that even if the above criteria are adhered to, even though you legally can own the gun, you are not able to fire it. However, permanently semied AEG's are legal and just require that the owner is 18 or 16 and holds a firearms licence)


If this for some strange reason comes on in, take it to either someone in Auckland to get it legally semied (either the ASA armorer or the APA armorers... we may be nice and do it with a smile >D ).
If (and it will probably be checked) it gets stopped at customers, be prepared to lose all of your money you spent to get it on in.

p06
03-03-2008, 03:42 PM
OK they just emailed me saying payment has arrived. I was able to get in contact with em and told them to convert it to semi and added the FAMAS Scope mount to the order..

wege
03-03-2008, 03:48 PM
sweet.
that will be good then. :)

Dirka
03-03-2008, 05:07 PM
Lucky!!
What a pisser if you lost it! first gun and all!?!

Killae
03-03-2008, 05:08 PM
V1's can easily be semi'd. It''s about a 2 minute job on the FAMAS

That may be so, but from what UNcompany have told me they only do the semi conversion on v.2 and v.3 mechboxes. Hopefully their policy has changed :)

Amoki
03-03-2008, 06:43 PM
LOL, UNcompany is ran by people who have really funny way of thinking. When I bought my HK416 of them They told me they strongly recommend sending them via disassembly because... semi-ing them might damage the gearbox shell and cause cracks. o_O

In saying that though the cost of semi-mod guns plus deliverycombined through them is one of the cheapest from Hong Kong.

Antman
03-03-2008, 10:47 PM
Is it very hard to get a TM P90 converted to Semi Auto? As I am looking at getting one, and RedWolf looks good.

musick
04-03-2008, 12:24 AM
It is simple to do. Talk to your club armourer for more information on importation of and conversion of SEGs.

Is it very hard to get a TM P90 converted to Semi Auto? As I am looking at getting one, and RedWolf looks good.

p06
04-03-2008, 05:57 AM
UNCOMPANY Responded to my request and it looks like everything should be ok. The famas scope mount was added to original order $33 US and gun SHOULD have a semi auto gearbox prior to being sent.

Chur

p06
04-03-2008, 07:25 AM
Lets say this 1 does get stopped, I will still want a gun. Where would you recommend I purchase an AEG Semi Assault Rifle / Sub Machine gun with 350FPS+ 0.2g Ability $3-400 price range

BLACKHAWK
04-03-2008, 07:34 AM
Through an auckland club armourer

Amoki
04-03-2008, 08:24 AM
Lets say this 1 does get stopped, I will still want a gun. Where would you recommend I purchase an AEG Semi Assault Rifle / Sub Machine gun with 350FPS+ 0.2g Ability $3-400 price range

IT is NOT going to get seized, unless it is not properly semi'd. You've gotta trust wege on that :D

As for guns, join up with ASA / APA, have a feel and then make your choice. One's man UMP is another man's SLR :D

Dorian
04-03-2008, 09:01 AM
Yeah, you really should be a member of a club if your gonna be buying this kinda stuff.

Septic
04-03-2008, 10:44 AM
And by now one would hope an Auckland-based club recruiter has contacted you ...

p06
04-03-2008, 12:11 PM
And by now one would hope an Auckland-based club recruiter has contacted you ...

Yes thnx. Btw this arrived in the mail today. I got it for my brother.

370fps w/.12g BBs or 340 fps w/.20g BBs -
Not bad for a pump action (spring powered)

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/35/22106735_full.jpg

broke my auto resetting bb target set with it :(

Sandman
04-03-2008, 12:36 PM
370 with .12's....see how far the go in a straight line after 10 feet :)

p06
04-03-2008, 12:51 PM
370 with .12's....see how far the go in a straight line after 10 feet :)Yer when I last used em they spun up in the air after a short range. It does have ajustable hop up though. Plan on using .2g mainly but I did buy a couple thousand .12g to see what happends. The shotgun isn't even full metal/abs got some cheap plastic there it seems :(

Mouse
04-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Trademe = poo's :eek:

Most of the time at least.

mr_westie
04-03-2008, 01:42 PM
Have make contact with p06, will drag him out to a game soon.

There are 2 versions of those shotguns.
One that does 250fps 0.2 and another 350fps, that's right 350 :o
But not enough hop to get the maximum range out of the fps.
The look on the face of an SEG weilding rambo when they get taken out by one is priceless :p

Amoki
04-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Yer when I last used em they spun up in the air after a short range. It does have ajustable hop up though. Plan on using .2g mainly but I did buy a couple thousand .12g to see what happends. The shotgun isn't even full metal/abs got some cheap plastic there it seems :(

Those guns only cost NZ$13 excluding shipping from China. They're not exactly build as quality toys :o

boggis the cat
04-03-2008, 04:54 PM
They are built as toys, unfortunately.

We need to get organised and try to head off the large amount of crap getting imported and sold to unsuspecting people. Perhaps ASNZ should contact TradeMe and the Police to see if we can get an automatic "Contact ASNZ for information on this airsoft /related item prior to purchase" slapped on everything.

No offence intended to p06, but possibly this forum needs to be policed to weed out non-airsofters, too. We shouldn't be providing a service to random people who could misbehave with the equipment they are assisted in obtaining. (If you want airsoft kit, then you must want to play airsoft.)

Stretch
04-03-2008, 05:30 PM
Perhaps people need to be approved as a club recruit before they can post/create threads?This would involve contacting a club leader and then getting to a game before being approved so people on the forums not intending to play airsoft wouldn't be able to do anything on these forums (with maybe an exception of posting on a newbie thread "Hi I'm *name* and I live in *city* and I would like to play airsoft" etc etc.

Also if new people cant post threads it will be a weapon against those bloody bots.

Just an idea.....

McArthur
04-03-2008, 07:53 PM
Is it possible to actually talk to customs, and have them hold it for you, and have somebody semi it right in front of a customs officer?

Dorian
04-03-2008, 08:40 PM
nope that would require kindness on the part of the customs officers

Nematode
04-03-2008, 08:54 PM
And for them to go against the current interpretation of the law and allow a restricted weapon to be imported into the country.

cqrt
04-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Perhaps people need to be approved as a club recruit before they can post/create threads?This would involve contacting a club leader and then getting to a game before being approved so people on the forums not intending to play airsoft wouldn't be able to do anything on these forums (with maybe an exception of posting on a newbie thread "Hi I'm *name* and I live in *city* and I would like to play airsoft" etc etc.

Also if new people cant post threads it will be a weapon against those bloody bots.

Just an idea.....

You have to be mindful of those who are extremely passionate about Airsoft, but are unable to join a club or play.

Stretch
05-03-2008, 08:40 PM
You have to be mindful of those who are extremely passionate about Airsoft, but are unable to join a club or play.

How could you be passionate about airsoft without playing?Its not like rugby where you can watch it on sky to get your "fix".On the other hand,if they are players that have moved away (Painless,FC etc) or they are people that trusted members can vouch for then I'm sure there can be an exception.

cqrt
05-03-2008, 10:40 PM
How could you be passionate about airsoft without playing?Its not like rugby where you can watch it on sky to get your "fix".On the other hand,if they are players that have moved away (Painless,FC etc) or they are people that trusted members can vouch for then I'm sure there can be an exception.


I should probably rephrase that :p, fascinated about the technology that goes into airsoft, passionate about the concept, I love collecting the gear, pulling them apart and see how they work, modifying etc. I'm not able to play for various reasons but am enthusiastic as the next person.
I work 7 days a week and find Airsoft to be a great distraction.:D

McArthur
06-03-2008, 05:13 PM
How could you be passionate about airsoft without playing?Its not like rugby where you can watch it on sky to get your "fix".On the other hand,if they are players that have moved away (Painless,FC etc) or they are people that trusted members can vouch for then I'm sure there can be an exception.

Well, I'm new to airsoft, so my opinion may not count for much, but I absolutely love it, and I'm really keen to get out and play. However, I am still underage and therefore I cannot play. I love it, but I cannot play it (yet) :)

Stretch
06-03-2008, 05:48 PM
But no-one knows who you are despite what your profile might say.I'm not saying your lying as you probably aren't.So until a trusted member has met you It would be my opinion that are treated as a non airsofter.

I hope I'm not putting you off,you are still more than welcome to play,When you come of age:)

McArthur
06-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Absolutely true.

p06
15-03-2008, 08:15 AM
kk FAMAS has arrived with battery and charger. Just waiting on the ACOG Scope and Gearbox.

p06
17-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Got the gearbox and scope now. Not quite sure how to assemble it or if its semi or auto.

ClanFever
17-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Great Famas, my mate has a spring powered Famas bb gun.

Whut
17-03-2008, 05:29 PM
Britain just introduced a law that required all airsoft players to be a member of an airsoft club in order to own the guns. Not a bad idea if you ask me.

wege
17-03-2008, 09:30 PM
uhh.. that is not true.. the new legislation does not 'require' a person to be a member of an airsoft club in order to own airsoft guns. It (the law) does not state they have to be a member of a club at all to own them, (airsoft guns) at all.

Go and re-read it again.
that is a bad idea if we have to ask you.

A better idea.. wellll that has been hashed out in other topics.. all over the NZ internet. :)
And to COMPLETELY end this off topic bit you have brought out, Whut, please come back onto topic.

P06. Was that mechbox semied?